Det kan de, men hvor kommer den hypotese fra?Kimex skrev:Næh.Mike-air skrev:Übermensch!
Da spanierne kom til Sydamerika bragte de smitte med sig, som de var modstandsdygtige mod, men indianerne døde som fluer. Ikke at jeg tror at sydamerikanere og afrikanere har smittet nogen. Men de kan da godt være mere modstandsdygtige mod coronasmitte.
Corona virusset (Wuhan)
Forumregler
Tænk dig om, tal pænt, men lad også være med at være meget sart. Hvis du skal bruge skældsord, så hold dig til noget Kaptajn Haddock ville have sagt.
Tænk dig om, tal pænt, men lad også være med at være meget sart. Hvis du skal bruge skældsord, så hold dig til noget Kaptajn Haddock ville have sagt.
Re: Corona virusset (Wuhan)
Det er da kun en hypotese. Men det kommer selvfølgelig fra, at Afrika og Sydamerika, tilsyneladende ingen smittede har. Og det er jo sådan det fungerer. Vi opbygger resistens mod virus. Hvis en med mæslinger opsøger sydamerikanske stammer, som ingen kontakt har med andre. Kan hele stammen dø.Mike-air skrev:Det kan de, men hvor kommer den hypotese fra?Kimex skrev:Næh.Mike-air skrev:Übermensch!
Da spanierne kom til Sydamerika bragte de smitte med sig, som de var modstandsdygtige mod, men indianerne døde som fluer. Ikke at jeg tror at sydamerikanere og afrikanere har smittet nogen. Men de kan da godt være mere modstandsdygtige mod coronasmitte.
Hvis den tendens fortsætter, med ingen smittede i Sydamerika og Afrika. Må man da overveje om de er resistente mod coronavirus.
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Og dermed siger mange mennesker, at man skal have lidt skidt, virus osv. for at blive modstandsdygtig. Men sådan fungerer den virkelige verden bare ikke. Grunden til at vi er modstandsdygtige over for mange sygdomme, er jo fordi evolutionen har udryddet dem som ikke var modstandsdygtige, før de kunne nå at få afkom. Dermed er vi altså iblandt dem med de gener, som er modstandsdygtige.Kimex skrev:Det er da kun en hypotese. Men det kommer selvfølgelig fra, at Afrika og Sydamerika, tilsyneladende ingen smittede har. Og det er jo sådan det fungerer. Vi opbygger resistens mod virus. Hvis en med mæslinger opsøger sydamerikanske stammer, som ingen kontakt har med andre. Kan hele stammen dø.Mike-air skrev:Det kan de, men hvor kommer den hypotese fra?Kimex skrev:
Næh.
Da spanierne kom til Sydamerika bragte de smitte med sig, som de var modstandsdygtige mod, men indianerne døde som fluer. Ikke at jeg tror at sydamerikanere og afrikanere har smittet nogen. Men de kan da godt være mere modstandsdygtige mod coronasmitte.
Hvis den tendens fortsætter, med ingen smittede i Sydamerika og Afrika. Må man da overveje om de er resistente mod coronavirus.
Får vi noget virus vi først skal til at udvikle modstandsdygtighed over for, dør mange af os ganske enkelt.
Og dermed kan vi ikke bruge evolutionærmedicin/darwinistisk medicin til noget somhelst. Det virker kun på den lange bane, evolutionærmedicin hjælper jo ikke lige nu og her, tværtimod dør vi af den.
Det er simpelthen forkert. Det er rigtigt at det ikke hjælper her og nu. Vi udvikler resistens lige som alt andet liv. Biller , insekter, rotter. F.eks. derfor skal man holde sig fra gorillaer i Afrika og naturfolk i Amazonas. Jeg gider ikke diskutere det. Gi´dig tid til at søge på det på nettet.Men sådan fungerer den virkelige verden bare ikke. Grunden til at vi er modstandsdygtige over for mange sygdomme, er jo fordi evolutionen har udryddet dem som ikke var modstandsdygtige,
Darwins evolutions lære udrydder ikke svage individer. Sådan med et´ via virus. . Den går ud på at der sker mutationer i alt liv og de mutationer som overlever er de som passer i den forandrelige natur. Og det foregår over tusinde af år.
Han kom til en øgruppe og bemærkede at den samme fugleart havde forskelligt næb som var tilpasset fødekilderne på øen. Over tusinde af år havde de fugle som havde det bedst tilpassede næb til lige netop den fødekilde som var på deres ø . Og dermed havde en fordel. Det resulterede i at de samme fugle på de forskellige øer havde udviklet forskelligt næb.
Hvordan vi har udviklet os til det vi er og andre arter har udviklet sig til det det er.
Der siger den videnskabelige anerkendte teori. Det er tilfældigt. Jeg tror det kaldes kaosteorien . Alt er startet som tilfældigt kaos som naturen og universet samler til et system.
Når mennesker dør meningsløst, eller af virus. Det er tilfældigt.
Naturen er en bitch.
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Hørte godt i DR-Nyheder, at han er død og at det begynder at koge lidt i befolkningen der ovre.
Oprøret ulmer?
Oprøret ulmer?
Aldrig har så stor en idiot haft så lidt forstand på så mange plug-ins
https://soundcloud.com/user-469072941
https://soundcloud.com/user-469072941
Det kan godt gå stærkt fra land til land på denne måde.
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2020-02-1 ... -med-virus
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2020-02-1 ... -med-virus
"Knobs? Where we're going, we don't need knobs!" - 14 år med ørene i Lydmaskinen -
Det undre mig at de taler om en dødelighed på 3, 4, 5%. De regner antal døde/antal smittede*100. Men det interessante må da være hvor mange af dem der kommer over på den anden side af sygdommen, der er døde. Dvs. antal døde/antal helbredte+antal døde*100. Så får man en dødelighed på omkring 20 %. Eller er jeg helt galt på den?
På kurven ser det ud til at sygdommen varer ca 14 dage hvis man bliver helbredt. Hvis det er rigtigt, og de 20% holder stik, vil der være 12.000 døde om 14 dage.
På kurven ser det ud til at sygdommen varer ca 14 dage hvis man bliver helbredt. Hvis det er rigtigt, og de 20% holder stik, vil der være 12.000 døde om 14 dage.
Jeg tror slet ikke, at Kinas tal holder stik.
Xi anholdte læger, journalister m.v. og sagde, at det kunne koste Kina en masse penge.
De døde tæller kun med, hvis de er blevet tilset INDEN, de dør. De bliver ikke tilset efter - dødstallet kan altså være meget, meget større.
Dertil var der tale om, at det kan være, at inkubationstiden kan være meget længere end de 14 dage - nemlig 24 dage i nogle tilfælde. Aner ikke om det er rigtigt, men hvis det er, kan der være mange "smittere", der går rundt.
Xi anholdte læger, journalister m.v. og sagde, at det kunne koste Kina en masse penge.
De døde tæller kun med, hvis de er blevet tilset INDEN, de dør. De bliver ikke tilset efter - dødstallet kan altså være meget, meget større.
Dertil var der tale om, at det kan være, at inkubationstiden kan være meget længere end de 14 dage - nemlig 24 dage i nogle tilfælde. Aner ikke om det er rigtigt, men hvis det er, kan der være mange "smittere", der går rundt.
Interessant. Så du siger vacciner ikke virker?mediumaevum skrev: Og dermed siger mange mennesker, at man skal have lidt skidt, virus osv. for at blive modstandsdygtig. Men sådan fungerer den virkelige verden bare ikke. Grunden til at vi er modstandsdygtige over for mange sygdomme, er jo fordi evolutionen har udryddet dem som ikke var modstandsdygtige, før de kunne nå at få afkom. Dermed er vi altså iblandt dem med de gener, som er modstandsdygtige.
Får vi noget virus vi først skal til at udvikle modstandsdygtighed over for, dør mange af os ganske enkelt.
Og dermed kan vi ikke bruge evolutionærmedicin/darwinistisk medicin til noget somhelst. Det virker kun på den lange bane, evolutionærmedicin hjælper jo ikke lige nu og her, tværtimod dør vi af den.
Ifht. Survival analyse teori er det mere rigtigt, men stadig forkert; tid/forløb er en faktor som ikke er med i billedet, og det er hammer vigtigt. Som nævnt tidligere i den her tråd ved vi ikke rigtig så meget endnu, fordi vi ikke har nogen offentliggjorte data på individ-niveau (men det gør kineserne nok på det her tidspunkt).MarkBass skrev:Det undre mig at de taler om en dødelighed på 3, 4, 5%. De regner antal døde/antal smittede*100. Men det interessante må da være hvor mange af dem der kommer over på den anden side af sygdommen, der er døde. Dvs. antal døde/antal helbredte+antal døde*100. Så får man en dødelighed på omkring 20 %. Eller er jeg helt galt på den?
På kurven ser det ud til at sygdommen varer ca 14 dage hvis man bliver helbredt. Hvis det er rigtigt, og de 20% holder stik, vil der være 12.000 døde om 14 dage.
Oh lord, virkeligheden overgår fantasien...
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The Department of Justice announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.
Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts.
Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.
Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.
Dr. Charles Lieber
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.
The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
Yanqing Ye
According to the indictment, Ye is a Lieutenant of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the armed forces of the People’s Republic of China and member of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). On her J-1 visa application, Ye falsely identified herself as a “student” and lied about her ongoing military service at the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT), a top military academy directed by the CCP. It is further alleged that while studying at Boston University’s (BU) Department of Physics, Chemistry and Biomedical Engineering from October 2017 to April 2019, Ye continued to work as a PLA Lieutenant completing numerous assignments from PLA officers such as conducting research, assessing U.S. military websites and sending U.S. documents and information to China.
According to court documents, on April 20, 2019, federal officers interviewed Ye at Boston’s Logan International Airport. During the interview, it is alleged that Ye falsely claimed that she had minimal contact with two NUDT professors who were high-ranking PLA officers. However, a search of Ye’s electronic devices demonstrated that at the direction of one NUDT professor, who was a PLA Colonel, Ye had accessed U.S. military websites, researched U.S. military projects and compiled information for the PLA on two U.S. scientists with expertise in robotics and computer science. Furthermore, a review of a WeChat conversation revealed that Ye and the other PLA official from NUDT were collaborating on a research paper about a risk assessment model designed to decipher data for military applications. During the interview, Ye admitted that she held the rank of Lieutenant in the PLA and admitted she was a member of the CCP.
Zaosong Zheng
In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.
The charge of making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of visa fraud provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of acting as an agent of a foreign government provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of conspiracy provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of smuggling goods from the United States provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling; Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Boston Field Division Joseph R. Bonavolonta; Michael Denning, Director of Field Operations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Boston Field Office; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Special Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Northeast Field Office; Philip Coyne, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; and William Higgins, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Export Enforcement, Boston Field Office made the announcement. Assistant U.S. Attorneys B. Stephanie Siegmann, Jason Casey and Benjamin Tolkoff of Lelling’s National Security Unit are prosecuting these cases with the assistance of trial attorneys William Mackie and David Aaron at the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.
The details contained in the charging documents are allegations. The defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
These case are part of the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, which reflects the strategic priority of countering Chinese national security threats and reinforces the President’s overall national security strategy. In addition to identifying and prosecuting those engaged in trade secret theft, hacking and economic espionage, the initiative will increase efforts to protect our critical infrastructure against external threats including foreign direct investment, supply chain threats and the foreign agents seeking to influence the American public and policymakers without proper registration.
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https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/harvard- ... WtwywF6p1o
The Department of Justice announced today that the Chair of Harvard University’s Chemistry and Chemical Biology Department and two Chinese nationals have been charged in connection with aiding the People’s Republic of China.
Dr. Charles Lieber, 60, Chair of the Department of Chemistry and Chemical Biology at Harvard University, was arrested this morning and charged by criminal complaint with one count of making a materially false, fictitious and fraudulent statement. Lieber will appear this afternoon before Magistrate Judge Marianne B. Bowler in federal court in Boston, Massachusetts.
Yanqing Ye, 29, a Chinese national, was charged in an indictment today with one count each of visa fraud, making false statements, acting as an agent of a foreign government and conspiracy. Ye is currently in China.
Zaosong Zheng, 30, a Chinese national, was arrested on Dec. 10, 2019, at Boston’s Logan International Airport and charged by criminal complaint with attempting to smuggle 21 vials of biological research to China. On Jan. 21, 2020, Zheng was indicted on one count of smuggling goods from the United States and one count of making false, fictitious or fraudulent statements. He has been detained since Dec. 30, 2019.
Dr. Charles Lieber
According to court documents, since 2008, Dr. Lieber who has served as the Principal Investigator of the Lieber Research Group at Harvard University, which specialized in the area of nanoscience, has received more than $15,000,000 in grant funding from the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and Department of Defense (DOD). These grants require the disclosure of significant foreign financial conflicts of interest, including financial support from foreign governments or foreign entities. Unbeknownst to Harvard University beginning in 2011, Lieber became a “Strategic Scientist” at Wuhan University of Technology (WUT) in China and was a contractual participant in China’s Thousand Talents Plan from in or about 2012 to 2017. China’s Thousand Talents Plan is one of the most prominent Chinese Talent recruit plans that are designed to attract, recruit, and cultivate high-level scientific talent in furtherance of China’s scientific development, economic prosperity and national security. These talent programs seek to lure Chinese overseas talent and foreign experts to bring their knowledge and experience to China and reward individuals for stealing proprietary information. Under the terms of Lieber’s three-year Thousand Talents contract, WUT paid Lieber $50,000 USD per month, living expenses of up to 1,000,000 Chinese Yuan (approximately $158,000 USD at the time) and awarded him more than $1.5 million to establish a research lab at WUT. In return, Lieber was obligated to work for WUT “not less than nine months a year” by “declaring international cooperation projects, cultivating young teachers and Ph.D. students, organizing international conference[s], applying for patents and publishing articles in the name of” WUT.
The complaint alleges that in 2018 and 2019, Lieber lied about his involvement in the Thousand Talents Plan and affiliation with WUT. On or about, April 24, 2018, during an interview with investigators, Lieber stated that he was never asked to participate in the Thousand Talents Program, but he “wasn’t sure” how China categorized him. In November 2018, NIH inquired of Harvard whether Lieber had failed to disclose his then-suspected relationship with WUT and China’s Thousand Talents Plan. Lieber caused Harvard to falsely tell NIH that Lieber “had no formal association with WUT” after 2012, that “WUT continued to falsely exaggerate” his involvement with WUT in subsequent years, and that Lieber “is not and has never been a participant in” China’s Thousand Talents Plan.
Yanqing Ye
According to the indictment, Ye is a Lieutenant of the People’s Liberation Army (PLA), the armed forces of the People’s Republic of China and member of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). On her J-1 visa application, Ye falsely identified herself as a “student” and lied about her ongoing military service at the National University of Defense Technology (NUDT), a top military academy directed by the CCP. It is further alleged that while studying at Boston University’s (BU) Department of Physics, Chemistry and Biomedical Engineering from October 2017 to April 2019, Ye continued to work as a PLA Lieutenant completing numerous assignments from PLA officers such as conducting research, assessing U.S. military websites and sending U.S. documents and information to China.
According to court documents, on April 20, 2019, federal officers interviewed Ye at Boston’s Logan International Airport. During the interview, it is alleged that Ye falsely claimed that she had minimal contact with two NUDT professors who were high-ranking PLA officers. However, a search of Ye’s electronic devices demonstrated that at the direction of one NUDT professor, who was a PLA Colonel, Ye had accessed U.S. military websites, researched U.S. military projects and compiled information for the PLA on two U.S. scientists with expertise in robotics and computer science. Furthermore, a review of a WeChat conversation revealed that Ye and the other PLA official from NUDT were collaborating on a research paper about a risk assessment model designed to decipher data for military applications. During the interview, Ye admitted that she held the rank of Lieutenant in the PLA and admitted she was a member of the CCP.
Zaosong Zheng
In August 2018, Zheng entered the United States on a J-1 visa and conducted cancer-cell research at Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center in Boston from Sept. 4, 2018, to Dec. 9, 2019. It is alleged that on Dec. 9, 2019, Zheng stole 21 vials of biological research and attempted to smuggle them out of the United States aboard a flight destined for China. Federal officers at Logan Airport discovered the vials hidden in a sock inside one of Zheng’s bags, and not properly packaged. It is alleged that initially, Zheng lied to officers about the contents of his luggage, but later admitted he had stolen the vials from a lab at Beth Israel. Zheng stated that he intended to bring the vials to China to use them to conduct research in his own laboratory and publish the results under his own name.
The charge of making false, fictitious and fraudulent statements provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of visa fraud provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of acting as an agent of a foreign government provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of conspiracy provides for a sentence of up to five years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. The charge of smuggling goods from the United States provides for a sentence of up to 10 years in prison, three years of supervised release and a fine of $250,000. Sentences are imposed by a federal district court judge based upon the U.S. Sentencing Guidelines and other statutory factors.
Assistant Attorney General for National Security John C. Demers, United States Attorney Andrew E. Lelling; Special Agent in Charge of the FBI Boston Field Division Joseph R. Bonavolonta; Michael Denning, Director of Field Operations, U.S. Customs and Border Protection, Boston Field Office; Leigh-Alistair Barzey, Special Agent in Charge of the Defense Criminal Investigative Service, Northeast Field Office; Philip Coyne, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Office of Inspector General; and William Higgins, Special Agent in Charge of the U.S. Department of Commerce, Office of Export Enforcement, Boston Field Office made the announcement. Assistant U.S. Attorneys B. Stephanie Siegmann, Jason Casey and Benjamin Tolkoff of Lelling’s National Security Unit are prosecuting these cases with the assistance of trial attorneys William Mackie and David Aaron at the National Security Division’s Counterintelligence and Export Control Section.
The details contained in the charging documents are allegations. The defendants are presumed innocent unless and until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.
These case are part of the Department of Justice’s China Initiative, which reflects the strategic priority of countering Chinese national security threats and reinforces the President’s overall national security strategy. In addition to identifying and prosecuting those engaged in trade secret theft, hacking and economic espionage, the initiative will increase efforts to protect our critical infrastructure against external threats including foreign direct investment, supply chain threats and the foreign agents seeking to influence the American public and policymakers without proper registration.
Interessant;
Hvis jeg lige skal tage sølvpapirshatten på, så kunne det jo være USA tilmed havde en kur for virus'en men lod kina stege i deres eget fedt, givet at viruset var i en af de 21 vials der blev stjålet.
Men altså; en eksotisk forklaring kræver en eksotisk mængde evidens
Hvis jeg lige skal tage sølvpapirshatten på, så kunne det jo være USA tilmed havde en kur for virus'en men lod kina stege i deres eget fedt, givet at viruset var i en af de 21 vials der blev stjålet.
Men altså; en eksotisk forklaring kræver en eksotisk mængde evidens
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jeg mangler en tl;dr af det Holger postede
25. Oktober 2022 - ny musikalsk videolog - Mørkt og minimalt, 5-lags soundscape
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Jeg er betatester for BABY Audio.
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Jeg er betatester for BABY Audio.
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Seskho skrev:Interessant. Så du siger vacciner ikke virker?mediumaevum skrev: Og dermed siger mange mennesker, at man skal have lidt skidt, virus osv. for at blive modstandsdygtig. Men sådan fungerer den virkelige verden bare ikke. Grunden til at vi er modstandsdygtige over for mange sygdomme, er jo fordi evolutionen har udryddet dem som ikke var modstandsdygtige, før de kunne nå at få afkom. Dermed er vi altså iblandt dem med de gener, som er modstandsdygtige.
Får vi noget virus vi først skal til at udvikle modstandsdygtighed over for, dør mange af os ganske enkelt.
Og dermed kan vi ikke bruge evolutionærmedicin/darwinistisk medicin til noget somhelst. Det virker kun på den lange bane, evolutionærmedicin hjælper jo ikke lige nu og her, tværtimod dør vi af den.
David Mondrup
www.monsdrum.com Engelsholm Højskole
For at værne om ytringsfriheden, råber jeg røvhul efter naboen (Peter Poulsen)
www.monsdrum.com Engelsholm Højskole
For at værne om ytringsfriheden, råber jeg røvhul efter naboen (Peter Poulsen)
Wuhans hospitalsdirektør er død nu.
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2020-02-1 ... dt-i-krise
Jeg frygter lidt at mange læger, plejere og pårørende klemmer deres immunforsvar ved ikke at få den hvile der skal til, at de arbejder så hårdt kan slå dem selv ihjel.
https://nyheder.tv2.dk/udland/2020-02-1 ... dt-i-krise
Jeg frygter lidt at mange læger, plejere og pårørende klemmer deres immunforsvar ved ikke at få den hvile der skal til, at de arbejder så hårdt kan slå dem selv ihjel.
"Knobs? Where we're going, we don't need knobs!" - 14 år med ørene i Lydmaskinen -
- mediumaevum
- Medlem
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Jeg fatter slet ikke at man ikke lukker grænserne, og aflyser rejser - helt konsekvent?
Luk dog grænsen til Tyskland og Sverige, aflys alle fly- og færgeafgange til og fra landet, og sæt samtlige passagerer på færger og fly i karantæne. Det er det _ENESTE_ som vil virke på den her smitte!
Luk dog grænsen til Tyskland og Sverige, aflys alle fly- og færgeafgange til og fra landet, og sæt samtlige passagerer på færger og fly i karantæne. Det er det _ENESTE_ som vil virke på den her smitte!
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Nu er der mig bekendt endnu ikke konstateret smittede danskere, eller smittede folk der befinder sig i Danmark.mediumaevum skrev:Jeg fatter slet ikke at man ikke lukker grænserne, og aflyser rejser - helt konsekvent?
Luk dog grænsen til Tyskland og Sverige, aflys alle fly- og færgeafgange til og fra landet, og sæt samtlige passagerer på færger og fly i karantæne. Det er det _ENESTE_ som vil virke på den her smitte!
Jo, det du foreslår kunne selvfølgelig fjerne spredningen lande imellem, hvis samtlige lande blev enige om at lukke deres grænser i mange måneder.
Så kan import og eksport gå totalt i stå. Slut med eksempelvis Polsk kød, som vores supermarkeder er proppede med. Slut med Italiensk ost.
Har du brug for en ny vaskemaskine, produceret i Asien eller i østeuropa? Surt show, du må vente til grænserne er åbne igen.
Og så kan du ellers begynde at patruljere vildsvine-hegnet for folk der krydser grænsen når de ikke må. Eller folk der sejler fra Danmark til Sverige i en gummibåd.
25. Oktober 2022 - ny musikalsk videolog - Mørkt og minimalt, 5-lags soundscape
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Jeg er betatester for BABY Audio.
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Jeg er betatester for BABY Audio.
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Jamen så må vi jo gøre det. Jeg håber det sker - at man totallukker grænserne inkl. im- og eksport af alt andet end livsnødvendige ting for private, virksomheder og samfundet, f.eks. medicin.Christoffer I. N. skrev:Nu er der mig bekendt endnu ikke konstateret smittede danskere, eller smittede folk der befinder sig i Danmark.mediumaevum skrev:Jeg fatter slet ikke at man ikke lukker grænserne, og aflyser rejser - helt konsekvent?
Luk dog grænsen til Tyskland og Sverige, aflys alle fly- og færgeafgange til og fra landet, og sæt samtlige passagerer på færger og fly i karantæne. Det er det _ENESTE_ som vil virke på den her smitte!
Jo, det du foreslår kunne selvfølgelig fjerne spredningen lande imellem, hvis samtlige lande blev enige om at lukke deres grænser i mange måneder.
Så kan import og eksport gå totalt i stå. Slut med eksempelvis Polsk kød, som vores supermarkeder er proppede med. Slut med Italiensk ost.
Har du brug for en ny vaskemaskine, produceret i Asien eller i østeuropa? Surt show, du må vente til grænserne er åbne igen.
Og så kan du ellers begynde at patruljere vildsvine-hegnet for folk der krydser grænsen når de ikke må. Eller folk der sejler fra Danmark til Sverige i en gummibåd.
Jeg ville ikke begræde hvis f.eks. italienske tomater ikke længere var at finde i danske supermarkeder. "Du kan bare lade være med at købe dem". Nå, og hvad så hvis andre køber dem, bliver syg og smitter mig?
Man kunne passende kalde alle soldater fra udlandet hjem, til at patruljere grænsen til Tyskland.
- Christoffer I. N.
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Men det nytter jo intet at lille Danmark gør de tiltag, hvis alle andre lande ikke gør det samme.
25. Oktober 2022 - ny musikalsk videolog - Mørkt og minimalt, 5-lags soundscape
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Jeg er betatester for BABY Audio.
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Jeg er betatester for BABY Audio.