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Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 20. aug 2019, 10:47

Hello,
I want a mobile setup with mastering grade headphone monitering converters. Are there any AD/DA interfaces with mastering grade headphone monitoring or do I need to start thinking about seperate DA headphone amps/converters? I'm working in the box using Audeze LCD X headphones.
I understand that mastering on headphones is not ideal but this is just for when im not in a studio environment.
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 20. aug 2019, 15:23

I seem to recall Benchmark DAC-1 sounding pretty good with a pair of Grado 325i headphones.
I'd check that out, if you have the possibility. Motu and RME might also be worth checking out.
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 20. aug 2019, 16:36

I second that - RME and Grado, although I use Sony MDR-7506 (as Andrew Scheps does). They are totally workable if you know them
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 20. aug 2019, 22:38

Thanks Jakobole and Joachip. I will check these out. Any particular motu or rme model?
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 20. aug 2019, 23:12

Here's the Benchmark https://www.thomann.de/dk/benchmark_dac3_hgc_b.htm

I must admit that I have not tried any of them, but this SPL one tickles my fancy (I have an SPL monitor controller, and it sounds great)

https://www.thomann.de/dk/spl_pro_fi_ph ... x_1670.htm

And the of course, you cannot go wrong with Prism and Lynx
https://www.thomann.de/dk/prism_sound_lyra_1.htm
https://www.thomann.de/dk/lynx_studio_h ... ck_usb.htm

However, if it is for working on the go, I would find all of these options too bulky. This might be adequate https://www.thomann.de/dk/apogee_one_386078.htm
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Indlæg Skrevet: 21. aug 2019, 00:44

.. i can highly recommend the RME ADI-2 Pro, though it's not exactly cheap. Besides great AD/DA (2 in / 4 out) it also features two extremely well designed headphone amps, that can be driven from individual sources - or used to power balanced headphones. Specs here: https://www.rme-audio.de/en/products/adi_2-pro.php

The unit also doubles as my monitor-controller / system-eq in the studio, and i have nothing bad to say about it! Please note that while the unit has USB, i'd recommend running it as a stand-alone converter (via AES or SPDIF), since it does not feature monitor-mixing and such.

If you need a full interface, then the RME BabyFace Pro could be an option. It has a very respectable headphone amp - but it's not reference class like the ADI-2 Pro ..
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 21. aug 2019, 13:43

Thank you everyone for your tips and advice. Food for thought and helping me towards the right choices.
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 21. aug 2019, 19:04

I also found this which is supposed to have a good DA and headphone monitoring as well as AD. Anyone used it?
https://www.merging.com/products/interf ... ing+anubis
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 21. aug 2019, 19:19

franco: Currently I'm using the Motu 2408 mk3, which also drives those Grados quite well despite those being just 32 ohms. I don't know if the smaller USB powered devices have the same amount of muscle, which may be relevant to check out because the Audeze LCD X headphones are even more tricky to drive at just 20 ohms. This puts quite a strain on the headphone amp.

I think the most pleasant sounding headphone amp I've ever tried was this Vincent KHV-111MK, but as you can see, it might be impractical for a portable setup:

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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 28. aug 2019, 09:56

Hippo skrev:.. i can highly recommend the RME ADI-2 Pro, though it's not exactly cheap. Besides great AD/DA (2 in / 4 out) it also features two extremely well designed headphone amps, that can be driven from individual sources - or used to power balanced headphones. Specs here: https://www.rme-audio.de/en/products/adi_2-pro.php

The unit also doubles as my monitor-controller / system-eq in the studio, and i have nothing bad to say about it! Please note that while the unit has USB, i'd recommend running it as a stand-alone converter (via AES or SPDIF), since it does not feature monitor-mixing and such.

If you need a full interface, then the RME BabyFace Pro could be an option. It has a very respectable headphone amp - but it's not reference class like the ADI-2 Pro ..


Hi, thanks for this info. I'm leaning towards this rme more and more. If I'm just working on headphones and not through speakers, would USB be OK? I will only be using it with a 13" MacBook Pro.

Thanks.
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 28. aug 2019, 09:57

Joachip skrev:franco: Currently I'm using the Motu 2408 mk3, which also drives those Grados quite well despite those being just 32 ohms. I don't know if the smaller USB powered devices have the same amount of muscle, which may be relevant to check out because the Audeze LCD X headphones are even more tricky to drive at just 20 ohms. This puts quite a strain on the headphone amp.

I think the most pleasant sounding headphone amp I've ever tried was this Vincent KHV-111MK, but as you can see, it might be impractical for a portable setup:

Billede


Looks and probably sounds lush, but a bit too big to fit in my sound bag!
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 28. aug 2019, 10:28

Indeed. :)

I just checked the manual of Motu Ultralite 4, and it seems to accept headphones all the way down to 16 ohm. So that might be worth checking out.
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 29. aug 2019, 18:00

franco143 skrev:
Hippo skrev:ADI-2 Pro

Hi, thanks for this info. I'm leaning towards this rme more and more. If I'm just working on headphones and not through speakers, would USB be OK? I will only be using it with a 13" MacBook Pro.

Thanks.

The device is class-compliant and will do low-latency operation as well as any other RME interface out there. It also has stellar line-level inputs, so it should serve you just fine. If you are not interested in the inputs, there is the ADI-2 DAC (https://www.rme-audio.de/en/products/adi_2-dac.php) which performes to similar specifications, but without the AD section and without seperate DACs for the headphone output. Also a fair bit cheaper ..
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Re: Headphone DA

Indlæg Skrevet: 2. jan 2020, 08:54

Hi, ive just seen your response to my inquiry. Thank you. Much appreciated.

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